TEMPORAL RECON INTERVIEW: SESSION 1|Time 0 Redux1
In October 2011 I had the privilege to interview Temporal Recon, author of a new book on the strange internet phenomenon of an alleged time traveler who was posting in message boards online.
You can hear that interview here. It was one of his few radio appearances, he no longer does voice interviews.
This is the first of a series of written interviews; interactions between the author/researcher and myself as we share common interests in the physics, metaphysics, and philosophical implications of “time” as, not a fixed, linear progression, but as a phenomena of mind, consciousness and human intentionality in a liquid medium that traverses dimensions, quantum states, and world scenes. We also invite YOU, the reader to interact with us with questions, comments, and insights.
Randy Maugans, May 13, 2017
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In 2000, a man calling himself John Titor began posting online claiming to be a time traveler from 2036. His mission? Travel to 1975, make contact with his own grandfather and retrieve an obscure IBM computer to help in the reconstruction of American infrastructure after a nuclear war with Russia in 2015. John Titor’s postings generated intense interest and hot debate at the time. Even now in 2017, people still find Titor’s writings incredibly compelling.
The author, known only as Temporal Recon/Anonymous, continues to research the phenomena and intriguing aspects of the John Titor story. The book is currently being expanded for a second edition, to be announced.
TR: Hello, Randy. First, I’d like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to discuss with a wider audience a topic that has kept so many people enthralled with the possibility of ‘bending time’ to our purposes. I’m hopeful that some of my answers may inspire others to delve deeper into the Question and devour its possibilities.
Q: What current events have confirmed to you that Titor’s story has meaning for us now, in 2017?
TR: This is an outstanding first question, Randy.
Essentially, people want to know: “why should I care” and even more importantly, “why should I care now?”
It’s happened before where, when I have gone in search of answers to something that I thought was deep and mysterious, I only came back with but hints of the answers I sought and much larger questions to go with them; I simply hadn’t been thinking big enough when formulating my questions. The same has happened during my investigation into the TimeTravel_0 posts and the Question they imply.
And because of this most recent transformation of outlook that I have experienced since 2010, I personally no longer look for evidence that “John Titor” was speaking about our particular time period. Tempus Edax Rerum, as it were.
Rather, I seek to understand the larger picture of things. Please allow me to explain:
Everyone is familiar with Aesop and his fables. Aesop (whose actual existence is in doubt, ironically) is credited with writing numerous fables which utilized anthropomorphized animals to tell stories concerning the Human condition and psychology. And, in a favor to readers of his works through the centuries, Aesop included a moral at the end of each fable to concisely tell the reader what he should learn from it. Hell of a guy, right?
I remember reading these stories as a child in a book that my parents bought for me. I enjoyed the colorful pictures, the large-print text, the illustrative wording; all of it. And, at the end, I was treated to the lesson that was to be learned. It was an effective way to introduce a child to the wider world of human interaction and tendencies (e.g. “Sour Grapes,” etc).
I find the TimeTravel_0 posts carry a similar “feel” to them. And, not surprisingly, their audience innately and subconsciously also appears to treat them in a similar way as they would Aesop’s Fables. What I mean by this is that I have noticed that people enjoy the narrative, the colorful and illustrative words and the mystery of an anonymous man who is ‘just trying to get home’ (shades of Ulysses, perhaps?). And, lo and behold, at the end of the narrative (well, embedded within it, but indulge me for a moment), the reader may also look for predictions (i.e. the “moral”) to be digested, learned and internalized (the lessons in the posts are very rarely internalized or acted upon, but I digress…). Quite the feat, if you ask me. I have no evidence to suggest that this parallel was intended, but it is as it is.
As I mentioned above, my focus has moved away from reading the Titor posts as if they were an Aesop fable to discern some prediction (or ‘moral,’ in the parlance of Aesop). Instead my focus has shifted to understand Aesop himself. I entered the Titor-verse in 2009 wondering if Titor was really a ‘time traveler’ and even sought out predictions for our future just as many before me had done, but instead came away with Questions much larger than when I started. They have not abated.
All that being said, I fully understand that people in general look to the TimeTravel_0 posts in search of those predictions about our future while not realizing that there is more to be seen. They do this in the hopes of divining some proof of the fantastical and perhaps assuage their fear of the doom and gloom he described; perfectly understandable. (it should be noted that I personally have always considered his posts were not doom-laden, but rather were hopeful at their core. “Rebirth is Painful.” Why do people always focus on the negative?)
They look at the posts and wonder, “Is this relevant to me now?” At the risk of undercutting the analysis done for COATT, I would have to say yes.
I’m secure in saying that some of the predictions and connections that I made in COATT were not 100% correct. I can say this because I always (or have learned to) allow for the possibility that I might be wrong on certain aspects. The objective and circumstantial evidence pointing to the likelihood that TimeTravel_0 really was from another time is solid and I stand by it. Some of the extrapolations and predictions about our own future however do contain within them the possibility of mis-analysis.
A good example of this mis-analysis might be the supposition that TimeTravel_0 was referring to the former American President, Barack Obama, when Titor spoke about the political climate that led to the Second American Civil War (according to the Titor Narrative).
In the TimeTravel_0 Narrative, Titor referred to the President in power during or immediately before the Second American Civil War as America’s “leader” (he actually placed quotes around this word). In COATT, I speculated that the reason Titor refused to use the word ‘president’ to describe this person was because of the shadow hanging over BHO’s birthplace. If BHO is, in fact, not a natural born American citizen as required by the US Constitution, then he could not be a “President,” per se. So, instead, I supposed Titor used this word “leader” to describe BHO’s role without giving him the title he obtained only through fraud and subterfuge.
Ironically, however, this same notion of calling the President of the United States a “leader” (placed in quotes to imply he is no leader at all but in name only) also persists when describing the new American president, Donald Trump, albeit for a much different reason. Let me explain:
No longer is the idea of a “Deep State” or “Shadow Government” relegated to conspiracy circles or X-Files episodes.
While persons such as yourself and others may have long known or suspected the existence of a ‘shadow government’ which truly runs things, it has only now, with the win by a populist candidate, Donald Trump, actually revealed itself to the public at large. No longer is the idea of a “Deep State” or “Shadow Government” relegated to conspiracy circles or X-Files episodes. Donald Trump is despised by both the Left and Right of American politics (shouldn’t that tell us something?)
My point here is that, with every “ruling” issued by a federal judge or with every delay or false start in executing on their candidate’s (now party leader) campaign promises such as the repeal of the Affordable Care Act (‘ObamaCare’), the American public now sees that the President is not in charge and that the Deep State is attempting to clip the new President’s wings; the American Public is now learning that it does not matter who they vote for, because in the end, the Deep State is what runs things and that it will defend its power at all costs.
Doesn’t TimeTravel_0’s use of quotation marks when referring to the President as the American “leader” (in quotes) make sense when we consider TimeTravel_0’s advance knowledge of the Deep State’s power and existence? If the President of the United States is but a place holder, wouldn’t you qualify your description of him by using quotation marks around the word “leader” when describing his role?
So, in answer to your question, yes, I do see events now that confirm Titor’s relevance to our time now in 2017. But… as I mentioned, my focus has shifted off the search for predictions in the Titor posts. Firstly, because my questions are now different. But as I have come to better understand the stage upon which the various ‘time travel’ programs exist, I now see these periodic ‘confirmations’ more as a type of ‘signpost’ in time; markers, if you will. And most importantly, these signposts are not necessarily predictions.
Do you remember in the movie Contact, when the blind scientist discovered, enlaced and hidden, frequencies containing the plans for the alien Machine hidden within the video of Hitler’s speech at the Olympics? These markers or signposts that I have discovered are something like that. Here’s what I mean:
Imagine that you are on a highway and you see a road sign that says “Tampa” with an arrow pointing you onwards but it has no mileage next to it; you have no idea how far away you are or when you will arrive there. All you know is that you are on the road to Tampa. And when you finally do arrive in Tampa, a friend traveling with you exclaims, “Those signs predicted that we’d arrive in Tampa! They must be supernatural!”
these markers are not tied to specific dates, … but rather events….Divergence plays a significant role
Not at all; they are a method, an indicator; nothing more.
Now understand, I am referring to the markers contained within the TimeTravel_0 posts and elsewhere that most do not see; I am not referring to the overt predictions that Titor explicitly claimed. There is a subtlety here that few appreciate and whose explanation would require a whole other book (an update is in the works, but progress is slow).
Of particular interest to me and other serious researchers into the ‘time travel’ question was my realization that these markers are not tied to specific dates, per se, but rather events. This is an important realization to make because it also draws out the very real limitations placed upon holders of the technology and how they, themselves, conduct their missions. Divergence plays a significant role in this and we can discuss this later if you like.
Because I have learned what and how to “keep my ear to the ground” concerning these markers, I can show that they do, in fact, indicate that it is this time period that was under study. Ultimately, at the end of the day, these are what I am seeing: road signs without mileage. I see confirmations, but make no pretension at making predictions based upon them as many others are wont or desperate to do. Even I don’t suffer from that level of arrogance…
The great and obvious next questions naturally are: Confirmations to whom, and confirming what?
Ahh…welcome to the Rabbit Hole, friend.
Q: Is there anything in the Timetravel_0 narrative that may explain the so-called “Mandela Effect?”
Is the “Mandela Effect” relevant to the TimeTravel_0 narrative? Is there a relationship?
For clarification, I assume by “Mandela Effect,” you are referring to observations people make in the ‘real world’ that are at variance to what they themselves actually remember. I believe it is called the “Mandela Effect” because it was believed that Nelson Mandela had died and then it became common knowledge that he was still alive and well. There has been discussion elsewhere on the internet of similar phenomena which some call the “Bearenstain Bears Effect” where some people remember the name being spelled ‘Bearenstain’ where others remember it spelled ‘Bearenstein.’ I will withhold comment on my personal feelings of these two particular examples, but I do feel free to comment on the larger phenomena at hand.
Alter-Vu wA noted by several people after TimeTravel_0 stopped posting in March of 2001
What people are describing (Observations not matching Memories) was also noted by several people after TimeTravel_0 stopped posting in March of 2001 which one experiencer dubbed “Alter-Vu.” This was a play on word with “Déjà vu” and was meant to impart the mental feeling one gets when they experience déjà vu as if they are observing something they have seen before. Only in the case of an alter vu, the feeling one experiences marries up to a memory, but that memory doesn’t match exactly to what they are observing! It has happened to me on several occasions and it is, in a word, a damn interesting experience and extremely noteworthy if you are aware enough when it happens.
Titor never made any statements on the existence of these Alter vu’s or Mandela Effects specifically. That is not to say that they did not occur to him as well, but remember, they hadn’t happened to any of the participants in the online conversation yet either. No word for the phenomena existed yet.
This notwithstanding, Titor did make some references that obliquely or indirectly refer to the possibility of these occurring, if you already recognize what it is he’s referring to. Specifically:
“Since the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint, please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in 2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring and exist simultaneously; it would mean there are multiple universes out there where “you” are living a day behind and a day ahead of the “you” on this universe.
“There are some who believe that memory is some sort of information transfer or communication with the “yous” in the past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, than physics tells us that the same information transfer from our future selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain. Could it be that fantasy or “what if” scenarios are actually future memory from an alternate “us” on a future worldline?”
Beyond the points germane to our discussion here/now, also noteworthy in TimeTravel_0’s statement above is the “ridiculous idea” that memory could be held outside of the physical brain akin to ‘the cloud.’ What TimeTravel_0 is conjecturing here is that Information (with a capital ‘I’) may exist separately and unto itself, where the human brain is merely a ‘receiver.’
What few realize is that TimeTravel_0 injected this idea in the form of supposition (“there are those who believe…”). I find it quite likely that this idea (which is only speculated on now in the current literature) is well-established to those who utilize this type of technology.
What this passage represents is an oblique ‘prediction’ of the maturation of our understanding of Information and the Multiverse. But instead of presenting it as a proclamation from our future betters, it is presented as mild speculation. If anyone is serious about understanding the Question, it is imperative to understand the language, vocabulary and modalities which the ‘time travelers’ use. This is but one example.
Returning to your question: is there a connection between information passing among universes, jumping from you to you, and the appearance of the Mandela Effect? Yes, I believe there is. My research into the matter indirectly indicates that both Information and Consciousness (with a capital ‘c’) are both foundational and ultimate in the multi-verse. Information/Consciousness, I believe, is the very water in which we swim.
Information is but one aspect of the larger whole. If there are only two sides to a coin, then the obverse of Information may be Consciousness. As is being shown by current research (by others), Consciousness is not only ever-present, but also co-creational with the multiverse.
(I should note here that while I am making an artificial distinction between Information and Consciousness, I do so merely for semantics’ sake. I have no evidence that would show that they are, indeed, distinct at all. It is quite possible that Consciousness and Information are co-created and one in the same phenomena)
Some years ago, I was lucky enough to be trained and become fairly proficient in Remote Viewing as a skill and discipline. While some in your audience may not be aware of its veracity or at least skeptical of it, I can say with 100% certainty that Remote Viewing is a real ability and can be leveraged to extract accurate data.
RV is primarily a mental discipline and, as any military remote viewer will tell you, they’ve been aware of the multi-verse since the very beginning of the official program. The military RV’ers were aware of the multi-verse by virtue of their ability to observe alternate outcomes to events.
What this knowledge implies is that the mind, the non-physical essence of a person that is capable of non-local knowledge, can completely and effortlessly glide across different universes and observe the actions thereon (so to speak). The mind is not constrained to one physical universe; it may hop them. And because the mind may traverse these universes effortlessly, and carry with it the memories of the origin universe (Information), Information itself also may traverse these universes. And, as ever, I reserve the right to be wrong on this point. I find it quite likely that I am similar to a Neanderthal attempting to explain a jet engine with nothing but a Neolithic understanding of the world around him.
Information is, as the mind is, trans-dimensional as well as trans-universal. Information and Consciousness go hand in glove; it permeates all and is exactly in line with what TimeTravel_0 was describing in the quote I provided.
Now, understand, that in 2009 when I read the posts for the first time, these statements (above) by Titor concerning “information transfer” from one you living on one universe to another you living on another universe is not counter-indicated by my own personal psychical experiences nor those of the military remote viewers (both ‘past’ and ‘present’). In a nutshell, Titor was restating and essentially explaining how it is that remote viewers, or even legitimate psychics, can do what they do: Information transfer from one self to another.
END OF PART 1, TO BE CONTINUED…
- In Latin, redux (from the verb reducere, meaning “to lead back”) can mean “brought back” or “bringing back.” The Romans used redux as an epithet for the Goddess Fortuna with its “bringing back” meaning; Fortuna Redux was “one who brings another safely home.” But it was the “brought back” meaning that made its way into English. Redux belongs to a small class of English adjectives that are always used postpositively-that is, they always follow the words they modify. Redux has a history of showing up in titles of English works, such as John Dryden’s Astraea Redux (a poem “on the happy restoration and return of his sacred majesty, Charles the Second”), Anthony Trollope’s Phineas Redux, and John Updike’s Rabbit Redux.